i was commenting on another thread about how local kh attendance is down.
memorial attendance was also way down and the circuit assembly had hundreds less people than what is typical.
my jw family has even mentioned it.
My Aunt said her congregation is nearly empty and "just a bunch of older people." I've also seen that several congregations have been consolidated. About three years ago everyone got shuffled around - which makes it hard to tell just how much things have shrunk.
Here in California I do get the sense that things are on the decline - I used to see witness out knocking on doors all the time. Now I NEVER see them. I wonder if it's the same in other parts of the US too?
ok so this is a topic i've pondered and go back and forth on.. i can easily see a point where lawsuits cause massive deficits in the organization.
honestly i feel like we are seeing the tip of the iceberg in regards to lawsuits on child abuse.
to me it looks like the property sell offs are to be able to get ready for this.
What are you guys talking about? The Watchtower has collapsed. By every single metric they have imploded.
Building projects - suspended indefinitely
Preaching work - relegated to passive cart "witnessing" (aka sitting on your bum doing nothing)
Printing materials - less then 1/10 what it used to be
Growth - now well below than population rate
Branches - the majority of them closed or closing
Kingdom Halls - being sold off and congregations consolidated
Theology - dumbed down and the bulk of unique WT teachings abandoned
Imminent Armageddon - moved to 20 or 30 years down the road with "overlapping generations"
etc.
The Watchtower has collapsed. It's a shell of it's former self. Is it completely gone? No. But that's not the collapse anyone was talking about.
Now that it's collapsed we'll continue to see a steady decline as the religion moves further and further into the dustbin of obscurity.
what kind of questions would you use to get a child'scritical thinking skills going from a young age with regards to the bible/god/jesus/anything to do with the religion??.
my most hated answer jws gave to people when they said you can't see god so how do you know he exists was "well you can't see electricity or gravity but you know they exist".
sorry but that doesn't prove god exists.
You might point out to the child that we can measure electricity and gravity and then ask the question, "Can we measure God?"
Perhaps ask them how they tell the difference between real gods and false gods?
and yet today's watchtower and indeed the bible condemns the israelites for moaning about having no water!
it's never occurred to me how unjust this is!
and how could a so called loving god not provide a basic human need?!.
This once again shows what a weak second tier desert god Yaweh is. He's a total failure. He couldn't stop his people from being enslaved by the Egyptians. Couldn't negotiate their release from Pharaoh despite supposedly being omnipotent and sending plagues. Couldn't get the "promised land" cleared of inhabitants before the Israelites scouted the land. And completely forgot to give the Israelite water for days on end.
Yaweh really needs to get out of the God business. He's not a leader. He's a incompetent bumbling oaf that gets all those who follow him killed (if he doesn't kill them himself).
i would like as many people that can, to respond to this appeal as i am sure their are many examples out their that may help lurkers and fence sitters to make a decision on where they stand regarding the "truth".
i look forward to your comments either negative or plus..
I’ve never read that the United Nations is Babylon the great in the revelation book.
I would love to have a quote.-Doubter
The UN is the beast that Babylon the Great rides. Here's a quote from the Revelation book:
The angel further explains to John: “And the wild beast that was but is not, it is also itself an eighth king, but springs from the seven, and it goes off into destruction.” (Revelation 17:11) The symbolic scarlet-colored wild beast “springs from” the seven heads; that is, it is born from, or owes its existence to, those heads of the original “wild beast . . . out of the sea,” of which the scarlet-colored wild beast is an image. In what way? Well, in 1919 the Anglo-American power was the ascendant head. The previous six heads had fallen, and the position of dominant world power had passed to this dual head and was now centered in it. This seventh head, as the current representative of the line of world powers, was the moving force in establishing the League of Nations and is still the major promoter and financial support of the United Nations. Thus, in symbol, the scarlet-colored wild beast—the eighth king—“springs from” the original seven heads. Viewed in this way, the statement that it sprang from the seven harmonizes well with the earlier revelation that the wild beast with two horns like a lamb (the Anglo-American World Power, the seventh head of that original wild beast) urged the making of the image and gave it life.—Revelation 13:1, 11, 14, 15.
we all know the big movie villains get a lot of credit and appear in multiple movies - the shark in jaws, darth vader, and before them dracula, wolfman, frankenstein's monster, etc.. but there must be plenty of villains that get forgotten.. i thought clarence boddicker (played by kurtwood smith) was fantastic in robocop (1987) - a real psychopath.. another character who springs to mind is vilos cohaagen (ronny cox) in total recall (1990), i thought he was very good too.. obviously these and other movie villains do get some critical acclaim but they don't get their own franchise and they rarely get universal praise.. maybe 'unsung movie villains' is the wrong phrase but hopefully you get what i'm trying to say!
xd.
I think Koba is an unsung villain. I mean, trying to enslave the entire human race is one thing. But for an ape to kill another ape - now that's truly unforgivable!
that expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
the left does claim that every white person is inherently prejudiced
No it doesn't. Repeating a claim doesn't make it any more true the second time than it does the first time. Stop making things up.
that expression is a no-no now.
it is racist and hateful.
some people just need to get the monkey off their backs..
The left claims that every white person is inherently prejudiced.
I'm the left - and I don't claim this. Nor does anyone I know.
But if we're just going to make stuff up then "the right hates all black people and wants to build a death star."
whether you like him or not.... it doesn’t matter.
do you think he will be impeached?
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Yeah, remember that time Obama called for a ban against all Muslims entering out country?
Or that time Obama called all Mexican immigrants criminals and rapists?
Or that time Obama said all the 15,000 Hati immigrants have AIDS?
Or called Africa a bunch of "Shit Hole" countries?
Or all those times Obama retweeted White Nationalists?
Wasn't it Obama who was indorsed by the KKK?
. . . oh wait, none of that was Obama? Oops, well you know what he DID do? - there was that one time he wore that tan suit to a white house briefing. I mean, if that doesn't make Obama a racist son of a bitch I just don't know what does . . .
whether you like him or not.... it doesn’t matter.
do you think he will be impeached?
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What about the former FEC chairman
What about the former FEC chairman? The FEC doesn't prosecute criminal cases do they? The absolute most the FEC can do is impose fines. They don't charge people with crimes. And they don't put people in jail.
This is like quoting the head of the DMV as saying, "There's nothing in the DMV hand book about not running over your spouse with your car." - that doesn't mean that 1st or 2nd degree murder with a vehicle is suddenly okay.
If you want to sit at the table with the adults you need to bring legal and logical arguments to the discussion. Not half quotes from sources who are NOT authorities on the topic.
